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stein egypt and you are wrong but as long as peace talks continue to be cast aside all the break in that the better to join me. just yesterday jordan held its first election since the arab spring and proponents say this parliamentary vote is a step toward greater democracy in the region while opponents are saying that it's nothing more than an empty pageant as long as the outcome favors king abdullah's regime despite certain factions within the country calling for a boycott of the election it was reported fifty six percent voter turnout over the last year jordan assumed a growing dissent against its monarchy in the simmering uprising curiously absent from the u.s. corporate media sort of give us a sense of what's happening on the ground in jordan right now and during our two correspondent catherine office in jordan as we speak lucy thanks so much for coming on. and as we know i'm there how are you i am great thanks to fix so as we know
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jordan is a monarchy and people because of that i mean people are just calling these elections cosmetic what is the real significance or purpose of these elections. well abbie as you mentioned these elections are the first in jordan since the start of the arab spring which have of course toppled for government so far now king abdullah the second has seen what's happening in the region he's aware of the growing discontent here at home in jordan and so these elections on the series of frankly cautious reforms that came along with it are really a way for the monarchy to sort of try to straddle both sides to give people enough of a sense of change to try to placate the growing discontent here at home while continuing to hold on to power and so there have been some changes for example the elections were open to outside observers for the first time there's an independent commission that's set up to oversee it the parliament will have more of a say in day to day affairs but at the same time the king maintains control over the. security services over foreign policy and most importantly he can summarily
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dismiss the parliament at will by a royal decree and that's why for many jordanians the changes were simply too little and too late but at the same time as you've mentioned we've had more than fifty percent percent voter turnout that's more than fifty six percent of the two point three million voters who are registered here in jordan and so what that says is that people at least for now are cautiously willing to sort of see where these reforms go and give this a chance but by no means is the monarchy in the clear just yet very interesting what can you talk specifically about what parties are involved here and what was the outcome of the election. right well the interesting thing here is that despite all of these reforms right there's this electoral law that's really quite contention and the biggest party opposing these elections is the muslim brotherhood now this is actually the strongest most popular national party here in jordan if the electoral law was different then the muslim brotherhood was frankly when
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a majority of seats here but the way the things are set up of the one hundred fifty seats in this parliament only twenty seven of them go to national parties the rest go to largely independent and tribal candidates those are seen as being closely aligned with the government and that is why a lot of people who are upset with the outcome frankly see this new parliament as being aligned with the king and not necessarily an independent body of any sort. and you mentioned earlier that these were kind of to try to quell the dissent these reform measures i mean do you think that that's going to work i know that a lot of the board a lot of criticism was saying that the even the numbers of voter turnout were inflated that it was really exaggerated and that a lot of more people didn't vote. no on the muslim brotherhood has certainly been saying that i do have to say that what we've heard from independent observers that the turnout probably was fairly close to what the electoral commission is saying but when it comes to avoiding the kind. you know it is serious overthrows of
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governments that we've seen in the region it's not quite clear that jordan is in the clear that is because the monarchy is going to be facing a very difficult situation in a few months of head any any sort of misstep by the government here could spark new uprisings and frankly much more important in the political situation is probably the economic situation jordan has a high rate of unemployment it's highly dependent on western and gulf donors just to survive economically and last year was forced to take out a two billion dollar loan from the i.m.f. which guess what came along with biting austerity demands what that had caused the government to cut food and fuel subsidies and that is what sparked a massive violence nationwide clashes all across the country last november and this new parliament that was just elected is going to push through more austerity measures as well and that will probably have a lot more of an effect on georgian stability in the months to come but i do have to say that for the large part most people aren't calling for the overthrow of the government just yet although we have seen sort of more voices speaking out quite
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critically of the king which has really been largely on heard of so far. yeah i mean it's interesting that the jordanian government has always been kind of prideful that the arab spring bypassed the country but of course you know it's easy to say but there is definitely something stirring in the country and it's in a really crucial spot of course borders you know the west bank let's talk about syria also i just read this article that said that twenty thousand people have fled into jordan in just the last few days i mean how what kind of strain is this presenting on the country. this is something of this this is something that's on the minds of all jordanians we're actually going to the refugee camp tomorrow to see for ourselves what's going on on the ground but the flood of refugees has been huge and those economics of economic problems that we've talked about those are only being exacerbated by the flood of refugees jordan simply doesn't have the money or the financial resources to deal with this huge flood of. coming in and
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a lot of jordanians fear that this is going to affect their quality of life they don't necessarily want to see an end they don't know so they want to throw the refugees out on the streets so to speak but they're quite worried about how that's going to affect the stability of the government here and frankly the government itself has said that it might close its borders if the numbers continue to increase if the government of bashar assad falls and so it is placing an enormous financial as well as political strain on the population oh yeah absolutely and like i mentioned before border in the west bank i mean now that netanyahu was reelected in israel i mean might the prospect of peace even be further deterred in this region we have about a minute left. right while jordan has the largest palestinian refugee population than any other country in the world it's about thirty percent we've actually went and visited a palestinian refugee camp today and people here well they're not they're not certainly they're not rising up at the moment but they're quite unhappy with what's
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going on in the middle east the very very unhappy with the situation in israel and you know frankly there are sort of playing it easy so far there and they don't really want to upset the balance because they don't want to lose the the the few freedoms and opportunities that they've joined here in this country but they're not happy about the regional balance and if the situation with israel continues to escalate we really could potentially see more uprisings in the camps and more uprisings from the palestinian read the refugee population but i should mention that there's a lot of wealthy middle class palestinians who are quite content to sort of set out this argument and keep quiet for now sure unfortunately it does look like it might be even more tense than it is now with not nearly as reelection beg you so much for shedding some light from the ground in jordan losing our to. los angeles is certainly no stranger to police. brutality and that's why this
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recent tragedy comes as no surprise on january seventh a man named so car horror was sitting in a car with his girlfriend when multiple undercover police officers came up behind them so proceeded to get out of the car but before he was able to speak to the police they fired upon him twice hitting him once in the chest all on suspicion that he was complicit in a burglary and since then the twenty two year old cambodian man has been clinging on to his life in the hospital. but even more inferior rating is that the police have refused visitation rights for all of his friends and family and when his mother demanded to see her son a cop simply responded will contact you if he dies now the police claim that soco was armed but his girlfriend is that night the allegation all we know is that they're trying very hard to prevent his family and friends from making contact or pursue an investigation and response of the case activists and ellie from the answer coalition have been organizing protests against police brutality around the
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hospital to demand visitation rights for so his family these intimidation tactics from the long beach police force bring me to a very important point which i don't talk about enough on the show knowing your rights in a police state police are supposed to be public servants we rely on them to keep us and our communities safe while biting by the law but in many cases cops abuse their power and become reckless brutal and in some cases murderous so let's do a quick one on one from the a.c.l.u. is website if you're stopped by police immigration agents or the f.b.i. here's some things to always keep in mind first it's very important to ask the police am i being detained if they say no you have the right to walk away very important remember that second and this seems so obvious but it's also so important to remember that you always have the right to remain silent because police can and
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they will take anything you say once you're arrested and use it against you wait to speak until you have legal representation and don't forget to ask for it because that's also your right third do not consent to be searched ever this means on your person vehicle or home unless there is a warrant issued police legally do not have a right to enter your home or search or belongings also when a police officer comes to your house don't let them in until they have proper legal documents even though the. it's totally up to interpretation these days look it doesn't matter what your skin color is and it doesn't matter what your legal status is in this country you have rights now there are many more tips for immigrant rights dealing with ice i.c.e. officers or people dealing with the f.b.i. accent or so please be sure to check them out a.c.l.u. dot org or cop block dot org now even to soak up practice the rights that he had after was going to front by police it probably would have changed the outcome of this terribly tragic situation but perhaps if we all stood up more to the police
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they would stop power tripping and they would start to respect the law and human life look this is not about hiding anything illegal this is about not succumbing to intimidation tactics by the establishment this is about standing your ground by practicing the rights we all have in this country because if we don't use them we'll just continue to lose them. and if you like what you see so far go to our youtube channel dot com slash breaking the sent to describe to us check us out on hulu as well hulu dot com it's like breaking the set check on our facebook page and like us facebook dot com plus breaking the sent follow me on the twitter verse that abby martin so stay tuned to hear the second part of breaking the exclusive interview with make up votes kim dot com next. wealthy british style. is no time to. go to.
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live. look like we're up to do a good job or save anything like that. yesterday
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i showed you the first part of an exclusive interview with internet take the founder of mega upload it to him dot com where he discussed the u.s. government's extradition case against him right now let's play a part two are his own andrew blake sat down with cannot come in new zealand to talk about internet freedom copyright laws and has been isn't he first asked him about his newest internet venture a website simply called meghan and why he feels the internet needs more encryption take a look at what i have learned since i got dragged into this case is a lot about privacy abuses about the government spying on people you know the u.s. government invests a lot of money in spy clouds mess of data centers with you know hundreds of thousands of hot drives storing data and what they are storing as basically any communication that for versus through u.s. networks and that means they're not spying on individuals based on
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a warrant any more they just spy on everybody permanently all the time and what that means for you and anybody is if you are ever a target of any kind of investigation or someone has a political agenda against you or prosecutor doesn't like you or put the police wants to interpret something in a way to get you in trouble they can use all that data go through it with the with the comb and find the things even though you think you have nothing to hide and done nothing wrong they will find something that they can nail you with and that's why it's wrong to have these kinds of privacy the abuses and i decided to create a solution that over time is going to encrypt more and more of the internet so we start with fi olds would then move to e-mail with them to move to voice over ip communication and our a.p.i. is available to any third party developer to also create their own two worlds and my. goal is within the next five year five years i want to encrypt half of the
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internet long before mega upload it was ever taken down justice department is looking into ninja video and you actually cooperated with them and people want to know how is this the guy who is incredibly against washington you know hates hates everything that they've done to him how is the same guy also helping out the justice department before which came down people think is a real one well let me explain to you how this worked ok i was a good corporate citizen my company was abiding to the laws if we get a search warrant or we get in requests by the government to assist in an investigation we will comply and we have always complied and that is the right thing to do because of someone uploads child pornography if someone uploads terrorist stuff or anything that you know is
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a serious crime of course we are there to help you know this is our obligation and i am not for copyright infringement people need to understand that i'm against copyright infringement ok but i'm also against copyright extremism and i'm against a business model the one from hollywood that encourages piracy mega upload is not responsible for the piracy problem you see it's the hollywood studios that release a movie in the us and then six months later in other parts of the world and everyone knows that movie is out there the fans of a particular actress want to have it right now but they are not giving them any opportunity to get access to that content even though they are willing to pay and they're looking for alternatives on the internet and then they find them see they are trying to make. me responsible for their lack of ability to adopt to
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a new reality which is the internet you know where everything happens now and what about your skeptics. who should point out this big playboy lifestyle and this giant elaborate house and they say that he's not worried about internet freedom as he is just more concerned with protecting his profits i'm not. my hero he was selfless he is completely the opposite of me but i'm a businessman i'm driven by the success of achieving something in the business world ok that's not a crime there's nothing wrong with that you know and if you create something that is popular that people want to you was you automatically make money and i've always been an innovative always created products that people like and that's why i am successful i'm not successful because people have used the word for copyright
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infringement and what everyone understand there has been mess if amounts of legitimate uses but on mega upload you know you don't believe that fifty million users a day are all just transferring piracy that's wrong a lot of people have used it to back up their data you know to send a file quickly to a friend so young artists have used it to get traction get downloads to get no when you know there was a lot of legitimate use on a gaap lot it's a dual use technology just like the internet you can go to any right now anyone who connects customers to the internet and if they are on this to you and you ask them the question how much of your traffic this peer to peer piracy anyone who will tell you less than fifty percent is lying to your face this is a problem of the internet and not meg upload a year ago exactly. right here. the government came in in the arrest and you shut
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down your web site and they put you behind bars and they they froze your assets you know it's been a year. but the one thing that also happened that day was members of the hacking group anonymous they retaliated so to speak they in response they went in they took down the websites for the f.b.i. for the motion picture association of america for the department of justice for the recording industry association of america all of these organizations were all shut down by anonymous in response to what they did to you know what they were hundreds of people or thousands of people or tens of thousands of people these are people you never met who were so moved by what happened that they had to stand up and do something did you ever think them in how did you actually take that how did you respond to their reaction well it's the. kind of virtual protest you know i think it's not a good idea to shop on websites and i've been
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a heck of myself i understand why they're doing it and how they're doing it but i think there are better ways to protest where you you know organize yourself in a group and do petitions and actually you know e-mail congressmen e-mail your local politicians let them know about what you don't like organize your movement and you know the white house was supporting. and all the when the masses came together and aaron swartz i mean he stopped. with his efforts he stopped soap and he became a target a political target ok and that's why all these things happened to him there is no reasonable. course behind going after a young junior like that in the fashion that it's political because. the white house wanted so but they promised it to hollywood and they failed and they couldn't
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go ahead because the white house was afraid if they keep pushing hard and they keep pushing it forward that the people who oppose it are not going to vote for obama in the reelection campaign you see so it's all a game to them really and we're all the little puppets that they think they can kick around so we need to organize their needs to be a movement that identifies these things and fights that not was shutting down websites but with real protest going out on the streets riding to politicians and especially most importantly don't vote for the guy is that i danced internet freedom anyone who voted for sopa you should have a close look at that guy do i want to give him my vote next time around because that's the only language politicians understand is your vote and if you can bring
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all these small words together somehow pools for internet freedom you will see all these efforts disappear because at the end of the day they represent the public the politicians represent the public and when they have enough pressure they move forward and so pub was the best example for that. and right now in studio andrew blake to discuss more of this interview and some of what cannot come with saying you know andrew i thought that what he was saying about aaron's words was really touching i was really moved that he was so moved by his death and really noticed you know that he almost pioneered stopping by that was really cool i mean in a way he really did without your resources efforts to kind of halt the entire stop on my privacy act and sister act people like it really wouldn't have had as much of effect and here is a co-founder of writer of read it and read it you know essentially did shut down in protest and when megaupload was was taken offline last year aaron was actually on
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our team to talk about it so there's always been some sort of little connection between the two yeah and one thing that i actually was the price of i mean i am and i'm not the fact that cannot come to not go out there and say i endorse do you as a tax and shutting down web sites i mean on on one hand he is trying to be a law abiding citizen and do things very by the book on the other hand were you surprised at all that he's kind of saying i don't really agree with the tactics of anonymous and these activists who shut down the sites i mean not really because if you look back during the last couple of months the hacktivists movement known as anonymous has really transcended beyond just d.d. o. s. attacks yes that is still a common tactic but go and look at the response to sandy hook and the response to westboro church planning on picketing that tragedies funerals and other want this in members of anonymous have coordinated a lot of i.r.l. in real life movements during the past year and it really off the web and that's what really got people talking like if if you remember during the strike on gaza
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back in november i believe anonymous was really trying to help people get connection to the internet in parts of palestine that were taken offline and that actually got anonymous coverage on the mainstream news so it's not just. that this group is known for even though a year ago when they waged attacks on the d.o.j. and the f.b.i. and the m p a r i ate that. obviously made a point it shut down all these places they got the job done it got people talking about mega upload but it's been a year and you are seeing this group do things other than just you know push some buttons of the mouse and firing their lasers at websites and taken them down there it is more than just that and i think it makes a really good point why would you really want to take out a website if the website you know serves a purpose. and that's great that it's transcended now just on line and cannot come saying what he's saying take it to the streets take it outside of the web space personally i think seeing is an effective form of protest to some degree i'm not sure if it should be legalized i really still undecided on the whole thing but i
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can understand where he's coming at and he said i don't care we got a bunch of people buying together to get some sort of action done why not do that on the streets especially right now the whole story of kim dotcom this whole tragic story about his his whole life being turned upside down comes apart because people really don't understand computers and computer laws that's why he's you know being made a speech and that's why they're going after him with all these bogus charges are going to believe that absolutely i think one of the things that he said that completely resonates with me and i tell this to you all the time you see is a neat i mean piracy is inherently and you know you're never going to get rid of piracy you all you can do is scapegoat these large figures and try to take them down and really set example them but i wanted to to ask you another point that you brought up which is that within five years he wants to encrypt most of the internet i mean we have about thirty seconds left but is he pretty much laying the groundwork for a future where we can take back our online privacy here and i wouldn't say that kim is necessarily laying down the groundwork when he wants to he might make the next really big step last year we saw an entire movement the whole crypto party thing
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take off where people all across the world were getting together and talk about different devices like or and other clients where they'd be able to have anonymity online and i think that we're going to see more of that in the so lou thank you so much our two producer andrew blick you guys. here the reindeer is everything for the herders. and when it suffers people do their best to help go up. the distances are. on the roads are tough and unpredictable. will the remedy be and try.
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